WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.622 --> 00:00:09.415 Tell us a little bit about yourself and your photography. 2 00:00:09.415 --> 00:00:13.212 Cool. So I'm Kristina Kraskov, and I'm based in Melbourne. 3 00:00:13.212 --> 00:00:17.371 And I take photos all the time, everywhere I go, 4 00:00:17.371 --> 00:00:19.542 but I'm really particularly interested 5 00:00:19.542 --> 00:00:22.503 in unusual people and places, 6 00:00:22.503 --> 00:00:24.409 and I make documentaries as well. 7 00:00:24.409 --> 00:00:25.635 So it's the same kind of thing. 8 00:00:25.635 --> 00:00:27.365 I'm just always looking for stories, 9 00:00:27.365 --> 00:00:31.131 whether they play out in a seagull image or in a film. 10 00:00:31.131 --> 00:00:33.336 I'm really drawn dramatic, 11 00:00:33.336 --> 00:00:36.248 classical painting style lighting. 12 00:00:36.248 --> 00:00:37.756 If I can find that in everyday life, 13 00:00:37.756 --> 00:00:40.236 that really excites me as well. 14 00:00:40.236 --> 00:00:41.069 Cool. 15 00:00:41.069 --> 00:00:43.323 Are you a professional photographer, 16 00:00:43.323 --> 00:00:46.962 are you working as a professional documentary filmmaker 17 00:00:46.962 --> 00:00:49.095 at the moment or that's your... 18 00:00:49.095 --> 00:00:50.471 I've made a few documentary projects 19 00:00:50.471 --> 00:00:54.309 and have done a bit of photography work in the past. 20 00:00:54.309 --> 00:00:57.616 It's very competitive industry as you're aware of, 21 00:00:57.616 --> 00:00:58.449 but yeah, 22 00:00:58.449 --> 00:01:00.191 definitely, definitely what I'm working on 23 00:01:00.191 --> 00:01:01.398 most at the moment. 24 00:01:01.398 --> 00:01:04.672 And art studies, you've studied... 25 00:01:04.672 --> 00:01:06.637 Yeah, I studied film and photography 26 00:01:06.637 --> 00:01:08.715 and I did a master's in documentary 27 00:01:08.715 --> 00:01:11.846 that I finished a years or two as well. 28 00:01:11.846 --> 00:01:12.679 Awesome. 29 00:01:12.679 --> 00:01:15.353 So tell us a little bit about your finalist work 30 00:01:15.353 --> 00:01:18.910 in living memory, I'm just a suburban fashionista. 31 00:01:18.910 --> 00:01:19.794 Yeah. 32 00:01:19.794 --> 00:01:23.162 So a friend that I op shop with encouraged me 33 00:01:23.162 --> 00:01:26.148 to join a Facebook group where people post their fines 34 00:01:26.148 --> 00:01:29.250 and I went in and there was just this awesome older lady 35 00:01:29.250 --> 00:01:31.930 posing in these cool outfits in front of her garage 36 00:01:31.930 --> 00:01:33.008 with her dog. 37 00:01:33.008 --> 00:01:35.977 But she looked like a supermodel who was 60. 38 00:01:35.977 --> 00:01:38.004 And I thought this lady is amazing. 39 00:01:38.004 --> 00:01:39.070 And I just knew that 40 00:01:39.070 --> 00:01:41.471 I would end up working with her somehow. 41 00:01:41.471 --> 00:01:44.986 And I actually wanted to make a little TikTok documentary. 42 00:01:44.986 --> 00:01:47.061 So that's why I reached out to her. 43 00:01:47.061 --> 00:01:50.843 And she was really cool. And (indistinct) was just amazing. 44 00:01:50.843 --> 00:01:53.298 Like it was better than I could have imagined. 45 00:01:53.298 --> 00:01:54.734 And I had my camera and I thought, 46 00:01:54.734 --> 00:01:56.697 I'm going to take a portrait of you 47 00:01:56.697 --> 00:01:59.157 because I just have this feeling that I have to do this. 48 00:01:59.157 --> 00:02:01.577 And she had these beautiful highlight windows 49 00:02:01.577 --> 00:02:03.707 and the light coming in was just magnificent. 50 00:02:03.707 --> 00:02:05.653 So that's how it started. 51 00:02:05.653 --> 00:02:08.981 And yeah, I was just looking through, 52 00:02:08.981 --> 00:02:13.048 and this particular moment struck me the most. 53 00:02:13.048 --> 00:02:14.868 She doesn't stop talking, Michelle, 54 00:02:14.868 --> 00:02:16.476 she's such a cool character, 55 00:02:16.476 --> 00:02:20.485 but all of the photos had her mouth open. 56 00:02:20.485 --> 00:02:25.485 So one moment of peace and quiet and like almost reflection 57 00:02:25.735 --> 00:02:28.869 and an innocence of just actually letting us see 58 00:02:28.869 --> 00:02:30.860 into her world. 59 00:02:30.860 --> 00:02:32.953 She has quite the social media following, 60 00:02:32.953 --> 00:02:36.215 and lots of people as think she has a giant wardrobe 61 00:02:36.215 --> 00:02:37.619 and her house is so clean, 62 00:02:37.619 --> 00:02:39.803 and she really liked my photo 63 00:02:39.803 --> 00:02:41.739 because it showed what it was really like 64 00:02:41.739 --> 00:02:44.233 and she wanted people to see that side of her, yeah. 65 00:02:44.233 --> 00:02:45.338 Yeah. That's awesome. 66 00:02:45.338 --> 00:02:48.428 And you won the Art Handlers Award this year. 67 00:02:48.428 --> 00:02:50.261 I think I felt cool. 68 00:02:51.750 --> 00:02:53.706 And what did you think of the video? 69 00:02:53.706 --> 00:02:56.254 I thought that was kind of cool as you're documentary maker, 70 00:02:56.254 --> 00:02:57.518 but you know, we do it every year, 71 00:02:57.518 --> 00:03:02.279 that we make a little video, but it was pretty cute. 72 00:03:02.279 --> 00:03:04.575 I really love the video they did. 73 00:03:04.575 --> 00:03:07.842 I've always been attracted to collections and clutter, 74 00:03:07.842 --> 00:03:10.298 and my parents growing up were always telling me 75 00:03:10.298 --> 00:03:11.131 all about that. 76 00:03:11.131 --> 00:03:13.642 So it was just such a eclectic moment to be recognised 77 00:03:13.642 --> 00:03:16.916 in this huge way for being attracted to clutter, 78 00:03:16.916 --> 00:03:18.617 and then the video reflected that, 79 00:03:18.617 --> 00:03:20.260 I just thought that was awesome. 80 00:03:20.260 --> 00:03:21.778 And what did your subject, Michelle, 81 00:03:21.778 --> 00:03:24.218 think about being being selected 82 00:03:24.218 --> 00:03:26.988 and being hung on a gallery wall or is it... 83 00:03:26.988 --> 00:03:31.681 She always says, I'm not telling people to vote for it 84 00:03:31.681 --> 00:03:33.539 or see it because I'm in it, 85 00:03:33.539 --> 00:03:36.870 but it's because it's a good photo. 86 00:03:36.870 --> 00:03:40.586 She always likes just think that she's not a big deal 87 00:03:40.586 --> 00:03:43.058 and she's no one significant and it's my work, 88 00:03:43.058 --> 00:03:44.656 but I have to keep reminding her 89 00:03:44.656 --> 00:03:47.308 that she is important to a lot of people. 90 00:03:47.308 --> 00:03:50.300 And it's I think our perfect teamwork 91 00:03:50.300 --> 00:03:53.094 that makes the work so special. 92 00:03:53.094 --> 00:03:54.706 And what I liked with your work, 93 00:03:54.706 --> 00:03:58.373 you went quite small and intimate and simple 94 00:03:59.399 --> 00:04:00.751 with your framing as well. 95 00:04:00.751 --> 00:04:03.280 So it is like a little window into a world 96 00:04:03.280 --> 00:04:05.064 when you go up and see it in the gallery, 97 00:04:05.064 --> 00:04:09.967 it sort of invites you to go closer and peer into it. 98 00:04:09.967 --> 00:04:12.534 Yeah. That was a very deliberate decision. 99 00:04:12.534 --> 00:04:16.887 I love huge prints, but it's such a detailed image. 100 00:04:16.887 --> 00:04:19.681 There's so much going on. She's almost lost in it. 101 00:04:19.681 --> 00:04:22.737 So I wanted people to take the time to actually see 102 00:04:22.737 --> 00:04:25.338 what was in the frame and yeah, 103 00:04:25.338 --> 00:04:27.535 getting close, go into her world. 104 00:04:27.535 --> 00:04:29.369 And she's tiny as well. 105 00:04:29.369 --> 00:04:30.786 She's so small. 106 00:04:33.151 --> 00:04:35.713 So what do you think being selected in the prize, 107 00:04:35.713 --> 00:04:38.134 sort of will remain for you as a photographer? 108 00:04:38.134 --> 00:04:40.201 I guess personally, what does that mean? 109 00:04:40.201 --> 00:04:43.083 And also professionally, what do you hope it brings? 110 00:04:43.083 --> 00:04:44.205 Yeah, well personally, 111 00:04:44.205 --> 00:04:47.866 it's a really tricky competitive industry, 112 00:04:47.866 --> 00:04:49.609 particularly with filmmaking as well. 113 00:04:49.609 --> 00:04:52.095 I chose two really hard things to do, 114 00:04:52.095 --> 00:04:53.925 and just getting so many rejections 115 00:04:53.925 --> 00:04:55.475 can really wear you down. 116 00:04:55.475 --> 00:04:58.179 I was lucky enough to visit the portrait gallery 117 00:04:58.179 --> 00:04:59.489 back in January this year. 118 00:04:59.489 --> 00:05:02.117 I wanted to, before I entered the gallery 119 00:05:02.117 --> 00:05:05.977 to check out the quality of work and I was so impressed. 120 00:05:05.977 --> 00:05:06.810 And I thought, 121 00:05:06.810 --> 00:05:09.244 Oh man, I probably not going to get into this. 122 00:05:09.244 --> 00:05:10.922 And I nearly didn't enter my portrait. 123 00:05:10.922 --> 00:05:12.615 But then I did. 124 00:05:12.615 --> 00:05:15.457 The deadline was extended and just getting in was a huge... 125 00:05:15.457 --> 00:05:17.473 it felt like a huge achievement 126 00:05:17.473 --> 00:05:19.568 because it is such a beautiful gallery. 127 00:05:19.568 --> 00:05:21.738 Professionally, I think, 128 00:05:21.738 --> 00:05:24.650 documentary, portraiture, filmmaking, 129 00:05:24.650 --> 00:05:26.765 they really do go hand in hand. 130 00:05:26.765 --> 00:05:29.836 So I hope it can help take my work to the next level, 131 00:05:29.836 --> 00:05:33.361 get a bit more recognition, more projects off the ground. 132 00:05:33.361 --> 00:05:36.664 You know, they're best in story-telling, aren't they? 133 00:05:36.664 --> 00:05:37.587 And what was on.. 134 00:05:37.587 --> 00:05:42.185 was it Australian love stories when you were here, 135 00:05:42.185 --> 00:05:44.178 the glowing hearts with the... 136 00:05:44.178 --> 00:05:47.221 It was the one before the music... 137 00:05:47.221 --> 00:05:48.275 I forgot what it was called. 138 00:05:48.275 --> 00:05:49.249 Pop rock. 139 00:05:49.249 --> 00:05:50.497 Yes. That was great. 140 00:05:50.497 --> 00:05:51.747 So you got it 141 00:05:52.657 --> 00:05:57.285 Sweaty pop rock exhibition. It was pretty amazing. 142 00:05:57.285 --> 00:06:00.637 So how has lock downs and changes in the world 143 00:06:00.637 --> 00:06:02.343 affected your practise 144 00:06:02.343 --> 00:06:05.955 in the way you approach photography and filmmaking? 145 00:06:05.955 --> 00:06:08.529 Well, so I went to see Michelle 146 00:06:08.529 --> 00:06:10.864 and take this between lockdowns. 147 00:06:10.864 --> 00:06:15.864 But lots of people fake, edit her into magazine covers 148 00:06:15.968 --> 00:06:19.283 and she just really has that aesthetic about her. 149 00:06:19.283 --> 00:06:21.946 And I wanted to do a more editorial style shoot. 150 00:06:21.946 --> 00:06:23.507 I wanted to bring lights 151 00:06:23.507 --> 00:06:26.914 and really spend a whole day shooting with her. 152 00:06:26.914 --> 00:06:28.280 And we just weren't able to, 153 00:06:28.280 --> 00:06:30.579 and that was the image that I was going to submit. 154 00:06:30.579 --> 00:06:33.593 So in a way, it forced me to look back 155 00:06:33.593 --> 00:06:38.343 and just accept this messy work in a way for what it was. 156 00:06:39.224 --> 00:06:41.653 And you know, that it is a really strong image. 157 00:06:41.653 --> 00:06:43.591 It's definitely been hard, 158 00:06:43.591 --> 00:06:46.421 but it's great to just notice this simple things. 159 00:06:46.421 --> 00:06:48.411 So I just make myself take my camera 160 00:06:48.411 --> 00:06:50.992 when I go for walks with my dog, 161 00:06:50.992 --> 00:06:54.103 always in the afternoon, of course, golden hour. 162 00:06:54.103 --> 00:06:56.686 And just keep noticing and keep looking 163 00:06:56.686 --> 00:07:00.138 and keep training your eye to see beauty, 164 00:07:00.138 --> 00:07:01.998 even if it's a bit sad. 165 00:07:01.998 --> 00:07:03.715 Yeah. Awesome. 166 00:07:03.715 --> 00:07:06.298 What's your selected equipment? 167 00:07:07.553 --> 00:07:09.971 What photographic equipment do you prefer? 168 00:07:09.971 --> 00:07:12.651 A news cameras and all of that sort of stuff. 169 00:07:12.651 --> 00:07:16.356 I tend to go as minimally as I can 170 00:07:16.356 --> 00:07:19.799 because I don't really want people to notice me too much 171 00:07:19.799 --> 00:07:22.763 or make a big deal out of me shooting. 172 00:07:22.763 --> 00:07:27.263 So I tend to always be pushing ISO more than I'd like, 173 00:07:28.169 --> 00:07:30.591 but yeah, I tend to just go minimally. 174 00:07:30.591 --> 00:07:34.373 I've got my Canon 5D, which is so beaten up. 175 00:07:34.373 --> 00:07:37.375 It's been all around the world and fallen off motorbikes 176 00:07:37.375 --> 00:07:38.599 and it's still going strong. 177 00:07:38.599 --> 00:07:39.432 So, yeah. 178 00:07:40.419 --> 00:07:42.619 And I tend to just go with a zoom lens 179 00:07:42.619 --> 00:07:44.841 so I can be ready for anything, 180 00:07:44.841 --> 00:07:47.341 but always fighting the light. 181 00:07:49.480 --> 00:07:50.783 Thank you flower. 182 00:07:50.783 --> 00:07:54.825 So any tips for aspiring photographers out there. 183 00:07:54.825 --> 00:07:57.956 I wish that they started entering things much earlier. 184 00:07:57.956 --> 00:07:59.675 I've always been taking photos, 185 00:07:59.675 --> 00:08:02.005 but I've only started entering things really this year 186 00:08:02.005 --> 00:08:04.569 and I've done surprisingly well. 187 00:08:04.569 --> 00:08:08.623 So I would say, just keep looking, keep taking photos, 188 00:08:08.623 --> 00:08:11.277 and keep trying to enter things if you can. 189 00:08:11.277 --> 00:08:14.373 And what about artists or photographers, 190 00:08:14.373 --> 00:08:17.444 any type of artists really that you look up to 191 00:08:17.444 --> 00:08:20.276 or that inspire you in your work? 192 00:08:20.276 --> 00:08:21.472 Oh, good question. 193 00:08:21.472 --> 00:08:23.646 I really love Errol Morris. 194 00:08:23.646 --> 00:08:28.574 He's a documentary maker and everything is just beautiful. 195 00:08:28.574 --> 00:08:30.714 You know, a simple interview shot, 196 00:08:30.714 --> 00:08:32.878 all the colour palette is considered 197 00:08:32.878 --> 00:08:36.116 in a way that's relevant to the storytelling. 198 00:08:36.116 --> 00:08:37.782 So I'm a really big fan of that. 199 00:08:37.782 --> 00:08:42.053 Unfortunately, I don't get the budgets for this content, 200 00:08:42.053 --> 00:08:46.329 but that's the dream, just to have beautiful--- 201 00:08:46.329 --> 00:08:48.345 People kind of have this idea 202 00:08:48.345 --> 00:08:51.597 that documentaries are just educational, 203 00:08:51.597 --> 00:08:53.677 so they should be cheaper, 204 00:08:53.677 --> 00:08:55.568 and they don't need to be so beautiful. 205 00:08:55.568 --> 00:08:58.595 But in documentary portraiture and filmmaking, 206 00:08:58.595 --> 00:09:00.363 I think there's a lot you can do to push that. 207 00:09:00.363 --> 00:09:03.549 So artists that do that, that really push, 208 00:09:03.549 --> 00:09:06.229 and just unusual people--- 209 00:09:06.229 --> 00:09:11.087 So anything about an interesting quirky character 210 00:09:11.087 --> 00:09:13.844 immediately gets my attention, yeah. 211 00:09:13.844 --> 00:09:14.677 Cool. 212 00:09:14.677 --> 00:09:17.403 And can you remember the first photograph you ever took, 213 00:09:17.403 --> 00:09:19.924 a conscious memory of taking a photograph 214 00:09:19.924 --> 00:09:23.507 and that connection of taking a photograph? 215 00:09:25.818 --> 00:09:29.150 I was in primary school and my friend kind of flip phone 216 00:09:29.150 --> 00:09:31.957 with a three megapixel phone camera. 217 00:09:31.957 --> 00:09:35.909 And I was just on it all night in, you know, 218 00:09:35.909 --> 00:09:37.859 really love those photos of stuff. 219 00:09:37.859 --> 00:09:40.208 And that made me actually--- 220 00:09:40.208 --> 00:09:42.649 I got a money box and I saved up all my gold coins 221 00:09:42.649 --> 00:09:47.649 to buy a $250 (indistinct) point and shoot. 222 00:09:48.015 --> 00:09:50.752 My mom takes me to the good guys when I'm like 10, 223 00:09:50.752 --> 00:09:54.249 and I'm laying out all my bags of those coins. 224 00:09:54.249 --> 00:09:56.371 And I just took it everywhere. 225 00:09:56.371 --> 00:09:59.439 And yeah, my family was super annoyed at me 226 00:09:59.439 --> 00:10:03.725 'cause I would just always have it and I'd spun it around 227 00:10:03.725 --> 00:10:05.892 and attached it to things. 228 00:10:07.465 --> 00:10:08.629 That's so awesome. 229 00:10:08.629 --> 00:10:11.259 It's been a long time and I was kind of surprised 230 00:10:11.259 --> 00:10:14.343 that (indistinct) time I thought 231 00:10:14.343 --> 00:10:15.691 that I should do anything else 232 00:10:15.691 --> 00:10:17.785 when it was really always present. 233 00:10:17.785 --> 00:10:18.927 Yeah. 234 00:10:18.927 --> 00:10:19.771 That's interesting. 235 00:10:19.771 --> 00:10:21.581 A lot of people with their first photograph 236 00:10:21.581 --> 00:10:26.299 and then it just leads on to more, like it's meant to be. 237 00:10:26.299 --> 00:10:28.193 Do you remember what you were taking photos of 238 00:10:28.193 --> 00:10:29.533 on the flip plane? 239 00:10:29.533 --> 00:10:31.616 Was it just your friends? 240 00:10:32.677 --> 00:10:35.156 This is a really weird memory. 241 00:10:35.156 --> 00:10:37.236 But there was like this orange lamp light 242 00:10:37.236 --> 00:10:39.875 on this clown print of bedsheets. 243 00:10:39.875 --> 00:10:42.759 I was trying to take a photo of the light on the clown. 244 00:10:42.759 --> 00:10:44.073 I don't know why. 245 00:10:44.073 --> 00:10:46.090 Well, I say it's still there that light 246 00:10:46.090 --> 00:10:49.287 and that connection to light and photographers eyes. 247 00:10:49.287 --> 00:10:52.287 So yeah, what about a dream subject? 248 00:10:53.736 --> 00:10:55.499 If there was anyone you could get 249 00:10:55.499 --> 00:10:59.347 to make a documentary about or photograph, their portrait, 250 00:10:59.347 --> 00:11:00.439 who would they be? 251 00:11:00.439 --> 00:11:01.529 What would their story be? 252 00:11:01.529 --> 00:11:02.923 Who would it be? 253 00:11:02.923 --> 00:11:05.681 That is such a good question. 254 00:11:05.681 --> 00:11:07.269 And I think about this all the time, 255 00:11:07.269 --> 00:11:11.302 but of course, now that you've asked me, 256 00:11:11.302 --> 00:11:13.472 let me just think about that for a second. 257 00:11:13.472 --> 00:11:16.663 Yeah, think away, take your time. 258 00:11:16.663 --> 00:11:20.413 I always felt really sorry for Julia Gilad. 259 00:11:21.343 --> 00:11:25.071 And I really liked those photos that came out 260 00:11:25.071 --> 00:11:27.744 when she was in cabinet, 261 00:11:27.744 --> 00:11:30.661 but I just thought a portrait of her 262 00:11:30.661 --> 00:11:33.871 just being a person relaxing at home, 263 00:11:33.871 --> 00:11:35.171 could be really interesting. 264 00:11:35.171 --> 00:11:37.196 There's a documentary that's coming out recently 265 00:11:37.196 --> 00:11:39.199 about all of her time, which is awesome. 266 00:11:39.199 --> 00:11:40.915 I'm glad that we're talking about that. 267 00:11:40.915 --> 00:11:43.368 But I tend to go for more unusual people. 268 00:11:43.368 --> 00:11:46.942 So I'd actually made a documentary 269 00:11:46.942 --> 00:11:50.918 about a local celebrity here in Frankston. 270 00:11:50.918 --> 00:11:53.658 Every town has their weird, unusual local person, 271 00:11:53.658 --> 00:11:58.246 at the back person dressed as a dolphin or whatever. 272 00:11:58.246 --> 00:12:00.583 So yeah, in terms of celebrities, 273 00:12:00.583 --> 00:12:02.873 I'm interested in the really, really 274 00:12:02.873 --> 00:12:04.347 minuscule micro celebrities, 275 00:12:04.347 --> 00:12:06.492 but those kinds of things, for sure. 276 00:12:06.492 --> 00:12:08.401 I'm gonna keep thinking of that 277 00:12:08.401 --> 00:12:10.431 'cause there's someone I was thinking about recently. 278 00:12:10.431 --> 00:12:13.631 I just can't remember who they are that I thought, 279 00:12:13.631 --> 00:12:17.397 Oh, it'd be so good to do a photo of them. 280 00:12:17.397 --> 00:12:18.257 It's gone. Sorry. 281 00:12:18.257 --> 00:12:20.099 Cool, that's all right, I can't come back. 282 00:12:20.099 --> 00:12:23.081 So what about any shout outs or thank yous to anyone. 283 00:12:23.081 --> 00:12:24.498 Have you got any? 284 00:12:25.545 --> 00:12:28.295 I've got a friend, Katie Bunac, 285 00:12:30.503 --> 00:12:32.373 who's on Instagram as well. 286 00:12:32.373 --> 00:12:35.141 And she's just my co-conspirator, 287 00:12:35.141 --> 00:12:40.141 she's a painter and she's an amazing portrait oil painter. 288 00:12:40.599 --> 00:12:42.536 And she's just the person 289 00:12:42.536 --> 00:12:45.760 who I send my rejections and my acceptances to, 290 00:12:45.760 --> 00:12:48.440 and we consult each other on a lot of that work. 291 00:12:48.440 --> 00:12:49.726 So she's my main one. 292 00:12:49.726 --> 00:12:52.340 And then just my family and friends as well 293 00:12:52.340 --> 00:12:53.872 for supporting me. 294 00:12:53.872 --> 00:12:54.922 Well, you have to get her 295 00:12:54.922 --> 00:12:57.152 to enter the Darling Portrait Prize. 296 00:12:57.152 --> 00:12:58.320 I've already emailed her. 297 00:12:58.320 --> 00:13:01.099 It'll be cool if you guys you're in next year... 298 00:13:01.099 --> 00:13:02.882 it's like a little joint showing. 299 00:13:02.882 --> 00:13:03.896 Yeah. 300 00:13:03.896 --> 00:13:06.886 We often enter similar things and having been in together, 301 00:13:06.886 --> 00:13:08.469 but... 302 00:13:08.469 --> 00:13:10.179 I might all align. 303 00:13:10.179 --> 00:13:11.790 Hopefully. 304 00:13:11.790 --> 00:13:13.403 Well, it's nearly the end anyway, 305 00:13:13.403 --> 00:13:16.173 but I was wondering if you had any parting words of wisdom, 306 00:13:16.173 --> 00:13:20.340 can be like life or art or anything you wanted to. 307 00:13:23.846 --> 00:13:27.243 I suppose in the subjects I've always been interested, 308 00:13:27.243 --> 00:13:30.160 they've never really been, I guess, 309 00:13:32.266 --> 00:13:36.478 the most on trend topic of the time ever. 310 00:13:36.478 --> 00:13:39.699 But that doesn't mean that they're not relevant. 311 00:13:39.699 --> 00:13:43.972 So I would guess just really consider your ideas 312 00:13:43.972 --> 00:13:45.153 and how much they mean to you. 313 00:13:45.153 --> 00:13:48.287 But if it's ideas that are always staying with you 314 00:13:48.287 --> 00:13:50.599 definitely still pursue them. 315 00:13:50.599 --> 00:13:54.516 Taking photos of weird people and their things, 316 00:13:55.655 --> 00:13:57.011 it's not always going to work, 317 00:13:57.011 --> 00:13:59.052 but this has really worked out for me. 318 00:13:59.052 --> 00:14:01.941 And it just fits in with everything I've been doing so far. 319 00:14:01.941 --> 00:14:06.941 So I'm really glad that I actually did take the opportunity.