WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.299 --> 00:00:03.790 It was so successful, we just got asked to do lots 2 00:00:03.790 --> 00:00:06.230 of things together and we didn't even 3 00:00:06.230 --> 00:00:08.020 call ourselves The Huxleys. 4 00:00:08.020 --> 00:00:10.200 People would say, "Oh, the Huxleys are here. 5 00:00:10.200 --> 00:00:11.754 Who are these, Huxleys?" 6 00:00:11.754 --> 00:00:15.201 So everything just happened. It wasn't really planned. 7 00:00:15.201 --> 00:00:18.368 (gentle upbeat music) 8 00:00:22.890 --> 00:00:25.340 When we started making art, no art places 9 00:00:25.340 --> 00:00:26.710 took us seriously. 10 00:00:26.710 --> 00:00:30.360 We tried to show in galleries to represent us and tried 11 00:00:30.360 --> 00:00:32.670 to get the art community behind us 12 00:00:32.670 --> 00:00:34.550 and no one was interested. 13 00:00:34.550 --> 00:00:36.860 And we were just like, "We love doing this enough 14 00:00:36.860 --> 00:00:38.510 that we're just going to put it out into the world." 15 00:00:38.510 --> 00:00:41.080 And we kept making things on our own, funding 16 00:00:41.080 --> 00:00:44.060 our own projects, doing it because we loved it. 17 00:00:44.060 --> 00:00:48.270 And eventually people catch up with you and you know, 18 00:00:48.270 --> 00:00:51.130 a lot of people ask us, "Do you make your own things?" 19 00:00:51.130 --> 00:00:53.950 And we're like, "Where else would we find these?" 20 00:00:53.950 --> 00:00:56.270 And I think by the fact that you're not trained, 21 00:00:56.270 --> 00:00:59.160 or neither of us are trained is a good thing 22 00:00:59.160 --> 00:01:01.730 because it allows you to dream bigger. 23 00:01:01.730 --> 00:01:03.850 Otherwise you might say, "That can't be created." 24 00:01:03.850 --> 00:01:08.250 You're not confined by any rules and you make things 25 00:01:08.250 --> 00:01:10.620 that other people will be like, "Oh, you can't do that." 26 00:01:10.620 --> 00:01:14.140 And you just find a way, so you just do it. 27 00:01:14.140 --> 00:01:17.877 And I've had fashion designers look at my work and go, 28 00:01:17.877 --> 00:01:21.020 "How did you do this," or, "How do you get into it?" 29 00:01:21.020 --> 00:01:24.530 And I'm like, "Oh, this way and that way." 30 00:01:24.530 --> 00:01:27.093 But you just don't have any rules in your head. 31 00:01:28.238 --> 00:01:31.870 (gentle upbeat music) 32 00:01:31.870 --> 00:01:34.080 Garrett and I decided to make a series of work 33 00:01:34.080 --> 00:01:36.080 called "Postcards from the Edge." 34 00:01:36.080 --> 00:01:39.480 And these are postcards from the areas and the places 35 00:01:39.480 --> 00:01:40.620 that we grew up in. 36 00:01:40.620 --> 00:01:43.910 So Garrett is from the Gold Coast and I am from Perth. 37 00:01:43.910 --> 00:01:46.550 And we went on this journey where we tried to find 38 00:01:46.550 --> 00:01:49.840 and source postcards from the area and the places 39 00:01:49.840 --> 00:01:53.580 that exactly places that we were in as children. 40 00:01:53.580 --> 00:01:55.790 Yeah, and by taking yourself back to that time 41 00:01:55.790 --> 00:01:59.360 as you are now, I felt the same as, you know, 42 00:01:59.360 --> 00:02:02.490 when I was 12 in that situation even though I wasn't 43 00:02:02.490 --> 00:02:04.930 you know, painted in green, glitter, and had wigs. 44 00:02:04.930 --> 00:02:06.247 I felt like that. 45 00:02:06.247 --> 00:02:10.600 And I completely felt like that so it was nice, you know, 46 00:02:10.600 --> 00:02:13.030 bringing those two worlds together. 47 00:02:13.030 --> 00:02:15.880 And one thing that we did that was nice with the postcards 48 00:02:15.880 --> 00:02:20.220 is this two postcards called "Small Town Boy: Perth" 49 00:02:20.220 --> 00:02:22.080 and "Small Town Boy: Gold Coast." 50 00:02:22.080 --> 00:02:24.630 Where we actually meet and we're joined 51 00:02:24.630 --> 00:02:27.750 by a sequin string of heart between us. 52 00:02:27.750 --> 00:02:30.580 And it was our idea that wouldn't it been wonderful 53 00:02:30.580 --> 00:02:33.260 if we had actually met from those places. 54 00:02:33.260 --> 00:02:35.743 And it's a way of us coming together. 55 00:02:38.830 --> 00:02:41.840 We did a thing together maybe five years ago, 56 00:02:41.840 --> 00:02:44.310 it was called "People of Letters." 57 00:02:44.310 --> 00:02:48.210 We wrote letters from the time when we were struggling, 58 00:02:48.210 --> 00:02:51.370 growing up in these places to each other, 59 00:02:51.370 --> 00:02:53.060 like dreaming of each other. 60 00:02:53.060 --> 00:02:57.040 And it was so beautiful because it was just like the idea 61 00:02:57.040 --> 00:03:01.047 that you could have someone that would make you feel okay 62 00:03:01.047 --> 00:03:02.653 for who you were at that time. 63 00:03:03.610 --> 00:03:05.590 Like, if I had met Garrett when I was in school, 64 00:03:05.590 --> 00:03:08.290 I think my life would've been a lot easier. 65 00:03:08.290 --> 00:03:10.900 And that was something that, yeah. 66 00:03:10.900 --> 00:03:13.660 And it's been nice since we've met each other 67 00:03:13.660 --> 00:03:17.780 and being together, we go back to Perth and the Gold Coast. 68 00:03:17.780 --> 00:03:22.050 And in a place that you used to get yelled at for being gay, 69 00:03:22.050 --> 00:03:24.200 being called poof, or whatever. 70 00:03:24.200 --> 00:03:26.490 You know, people are like, "I like your outfit." 71 00:03:26.490 --> 00:03:29.060 And I'm like, "Okay, this is nice." 72 00:03:29.060 --> 00:03:31.860 You know, things are changing which is really beautiful. 73 00:03:33.196 --> 00:03:35.310 (bright upbeat music) 74 00:03:35.310 --> 00:03:37.700 The idea of masking is fascinating to me 75 00:03:37.700 --> 00:03:41.530 because it creates this almost anonymous, 76 00:03:41.530 --> 00:03:45.240 we could be anyone or anything underneath that mask. 77 00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:47.210 And it gives this sense of freedom. 78 00:03:47.210 --> 00:03:50.570 For me I love the idea that it takes away, you know, 79 00:03:50.570 --> 00:03:53.180 wearing costumes that hide your identity. 80 00:03:53.180 --> 00:03:56.910 It takes away gender and it takes away race and class 81 00:03:56.910 --> 00:03:58.570 and all these things that were divided 82 00:03:58.570 --> 00:04:00.400 and put into binaries. 83 00:04:00.400 --> 00:04:04.330 And once you become this creation, it's so freeing 84 00:04:04.330 --> 00:04:07.670 and I couldn't get up and perform as well, obviously, 85 00:04:07.670 --> 00:04:09.280 it would be terrifying. 86 00:04:09.280 --> 00:04:14.280 But when I'm at an amazing costume and makeup and wigs, 87 00:04:14.490 --> 00:04:17.460 it creates this diversion that allows me 88 00:04:17.460 --> 00:04:21.230 to be the most fantastical escapist version 89 00:04:21.230 --> 00:04:23.050 of myself possible. 90 00:04:23.050 --> 00:04:25.284 It gives me the confidence. 91 00:04:25.284 --> 00:04:29.290 Yeah, I think wearing the mask came from not wanting 92 00:04:29.290 --> 00:04:32.160 to be seen first, so hiding behind the mask. 93 00:04:32.160 --> 00:04:34.990 'Cause I grew up very shy and still am 94 00:04:34.990 --> 00:04:37.440 quite shy and introverted. 95 00:04:37.440 --> 00:04:41.460 And I find it more interesting to look at as well. 96 00:04:41.460 --> 00:04:43.940 I find something like that more interesting. 97 00:04:43.940 --> 00:04:47.530 But you develop something in you, you find a power 98 00:04:47.530 --> 00:04:49.300 or something that isn't you. 99 00:04:49.300 --> 00:04:52.870 It's a freedom, you escape from all these constraints 100 00:04:52.870 --> 00:04:54.150 on yourself. 101 00:04:54.150 --> 00:04:57.490 So there is something really liberating about performing 102 00:04:58.660 --> 00:05:02.110 not as yourself, but as these characters that you've created 103 00:05:02.110 --> 00:05:05.267 in a way, but it's still you, you know. (laughs) 104 00:05:05.267 --> 00:05:07.413 In costume, generally it always interested me. 105 00:05:07.413 --> 00:05:11.520 Even like, people, military, or any kind of costume, 106 00:05:11.520 --> 00:05:13.936 you're putting on something to go out in the world 107 00:05:13.936 --> 00:05:18.060 and do a role and do something that you maybe not 108 00:05:18.060 --> 00:05:19.470 when you're at home. 109 00:05:19.470 --> 00:05:21.780 Well, what's interesting, when we make our costumes, 110 00:05:21.780 --> 00:05:24.300 we don't know who's going to pop out in a way. 111 00:05:24.300 --> 00:05:27.660 And it's just so interesting, like you think, "Oh my God, 112 00:05:27.660 --> 00:05:30.060 I can't believe I'm this frantic character inside 113 00:05:30.060 --> 00:05:30.980 this costume. 114 00:05:30.980 --> 00:05:32.410 Didn't expect this." 115 00:05:32.410 --> 00:05:34.810 And yeah, the latest ones we know something's 116 00:05:34.810 --> 00:05:35.643 going to happen. 117 00:05:35.643 --> 00:05:38.057 We put the latest costumes on and we're like, 118 00:05:38.057 --> 00:05:39.454 "Oh, this is slow." 119 00:05:39.454 --> 00:05:42.140 You know, there's a slow kind of graceful people 120 00:05:42.140 --> 00:05:43.718 that are happening at the moment. 121 00:05:43.718 --> 00:05:46.230 It's really exciting. 122 00:05:46.230 --> 00:05:49.019 We call it from page to stage. 123 00:05:49.019 --> 00:05:49.852 (Garrett laughs) 124 00:05:49.852 --> 00:05:54.100 We love the drawings that we do when we come up 125 00:05:54.100 --> 00:05:55.310 with an idea. 126 00:05:55.310 --> 00:05:59.120 So basically, I mean neither us are very good drawers. 127 00:05:59.120 --> 00:06:02.380 I'm particularly bad, but they're like childlike drawings 128 00:06:02.380 --> 00:06:07.290 of either like a photographic scene or a costume. 129 00:06:07.290 --> 00:06:12.290 And it's amazing when you take that childlike drawing 130 00:06:12.400 --> 00:06:14.283 and then bring it into a reality. 131 00:06:16.060 --> 00:06:17.700 I love that transformation. 132 00:06:17.700 --> 00:06:19.680 And the costumes often end up looking like me. 133 00:06:19.680 --> 00:06:22.065 They look like, the pictures. 134 00:06:22.065 --> 00:06:24.230 (laughs) The pictures, but like 135 00:06:24.230 --> 00:06:25.857 a heightened glamorous version. 136 00:06:25.857 --> 00:06:28.200 (Garrett laughs) 137 00:06:28.200 --> 00:06:31.460 I love seeing the contrast between those two things 138 00:06:31.460 --> 00:06:34.473 and they're your dream and then the reality made. 139 00:06:36.110 --> 00:06:39.529 Yeah, I think that is one of the great thrills for me 140 00:06:39.529 --> 00:06:41.373 seeing it when it comes to life. 141 00:06:42.830 --> 00:06:43.663 Yeah. 142 00:06:43.663 --> 00:06:46.020 And in between that there's a lot of frustration, tears. 143 00:06:46.020 --> 00:06:47.200 And, "This isn't going to work." 144 00:06:47.200 --> 00:06:48.033 Yeah, there's a lot. 145 00:06:48.033 --> 00:06:51.333 There's a lot of failures, trial and error, you know. 146 00:06:51.333 --> 00:06:54.212 (both laughs) 147 00:06:54.212 --> 00:06:57.379 line:15% (gentle bright music) 148 00:07:13.573 --> 00:07:16.323 (car doors thud)