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<v ->(laughing) The body language, you know,</v>

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isn't it so beautiful.

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I don't know about Queenie so much.

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But it's just...

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<v ->(laughs) You're right,</v>

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because it's like one person's looking directly

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at the camera.

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<v ->She's doing a photo op, yeah.</v>

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<v ->Yeah, who's done it a million times.</v>

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And the other one is kind of this,

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this kind of self-awareness,

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this humility almost.
<v ->Yeah.</v>

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<v ->So it's Albert Namatjira receiving the coronation medal</v>

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from Her Majesty,

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from "Albert's Story" series, 2014.

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<v ->And what do we have here?</v>

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<v ->For such, you know, for such flat dimension,</v>

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they're incredibly expressive, aren't they?

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<v ->Albert and Vincent.</v>

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There you go, beautiful.

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<v ->Yeah.</v>

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I love these.

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I really love these.

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What do you think of this?

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<v ->I think it's very evocative.</v>

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It's very close and deep.

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<v ->There's something beautiful, I think,</v>

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in just the gesture here of the arm.

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<v ->The gesture,</v>

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and also the eye.
<v ->The shoulder.</v>

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<v ->And the eye to eye, you know,</v>

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the eyes are so intently looking into each other

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in a way that...

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<v ->Now, oh, these are great.</v>

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The William Yang documentation of Mardi Gras.

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<v ->Yes.</v>
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These are fantastic.

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This fits so nicely into an exhibition about love stories,

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doesn't it?
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They're historic pictures as well.

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I mean this is how it all began.

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<v ->Mardi Gras is such a beautiful celebration</v>

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of just incredible creativity, as well as love.

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I love it.

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<v ->And abandon.</v>

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<v ->And abandon, yeah, great.</v>

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<v ->It's good for us, isn't it.</v>

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Peter Allen.

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It's a great shot of him.

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<v ->It is.</v>

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<v ->It's a particularly nice black and white shot.</v>

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What about these?

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<v ->I think these are gorgeous.</v>

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I've got to say they're beautifully hung, aren't they?

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<v ->Yeah, fantastically displayed.</v>

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<v ->Yeah.</v>
<v ->Impressive.</v>

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<v ->You know what I love about the inclusion of this too,</v>

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is about two creative forces,

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the love and respect and honouring of creative forces.

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Isn't it interesting, though, how much, I mean,

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they have very different styles

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and yet as such good friends,

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they obviously really fire off each other,

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but that didn't interrupt or didn't...

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It just energised, but it didn't,

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it didn't interrupt their own creative development or flow,

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but it actually further supercharged it I suppose.

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It's just empowering.

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I love that.
<v ->Mmm.</v>

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It's just really one of the highlights for me.

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<v ->Why?</v>

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<v ->Well, everyone knows this couple,</v>

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Anna Volska and John Bell.

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He's been such a regular traveller to Canberra too, you know,

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to perform with Bell Shakespeare.

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And I don't know, all that warmth,

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that thing he has on stage,

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and her, you know, it radiates from this picture,

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the relationship between them,

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but also their relationship with you.

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When you look at this, you know.

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<v ->It's very intimate, isn't it?</v>

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<v ->It is.</v>
<v ->It's almost...</v>

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<v ->It's intimate but it's also,</v>

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I wouldn't say, I'm not saying performative,

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but it's, it's like we're there as well.

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<v ->Oh, look at this one.</v>

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I'm just going to stop here for a minute.

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Bryan Brown and Rachel...

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<v ->Ward.</v>
<v ->Ward.</v>

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You know what I love about this?

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(laughs) I really love it.

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A minor detail, but I love the fact

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that the blazer she's wearing has kind of got ink spots

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or something on it, you know.

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It's kind of like a bit tatty,

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and I love the way she's looking at him.

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Just, she's just such a,

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a comfortable person in her own skin.

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And I kind of get the sense that, from this image,

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this portrait, that he has huge amount of respect for her,

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or am I reading too much into it?

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<v ->Probably not.</v>
<v ->Well what do you see?</v>

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<v ->No, I agree.</v>

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I can only go, I think it's, you know,

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here is two people who spend their lives

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in front of cameras.

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And so to some extent, I'd say, well, you know,

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there's a confection in the image

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or at least there's the possibility of a confection,

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but I'm not suggesting the love is confected.

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I'm just saying that that has a sort of a, you know,

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a kind of a magazine feel about it.

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<v ->I don't think so at all.</v>

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In fact, quite the opposite.

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If you're going to,

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if you're going to pose, for a start,

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you'd wear a jacket that didn't have blotches of ink on it,

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and something that fits you properly.

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<v ->Now here's one that, when we looked at it before,</v>

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This is a spectacular piece of work.

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<v ->This is my favourite of this exhibition.</v>

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(laughs) Stan and Tracey Holmes, Stan Grant,

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I think are one of the most incredible love stories

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in Australia.

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I remember I was at Channel Seven

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when he was just smashed by the media,

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when he, when their relationship became public,

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because it had been secret for a little while

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and he'd left his wife and, you know,

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there were children involved and, ah...

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<v ->Do we really have to go into that?</v>

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<v ->Well, he was just treated so badly.</v>

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They both were.

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It was despicable.

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Anyway, okay, I won't talk about it anymore,

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but it is my favourite.

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<v ->It's a beautiful picture.</v>

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I mean...
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you're just looking at the aesthetics of it

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and saying it's a beautiful picture,

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yeah, nice.
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it's the people, I agree,

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but I think it's a really bold picture.

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I mean, I think it's very painterly...

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<v ->Very painterly.</v>

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<v ->And it's extraordinary that the way it's been given</v>

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that kind of smoky,

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you can see the sun is very low, presumably at dusk.

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that you can sometimes get, you know,

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in the bush, late in the afternoon.

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And you can feel the temperature because of the furs.

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You can feel the warmth in a sense between these two.

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I think it's really,

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it's the sort of picture that makes you smile

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when you look at it.

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You don't see that so often.

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<v ->Oh, here, look at this.</v>

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I absolutely love the Jimmy Barnes and Jane.

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Now we know these roses are roses that he grew himself.

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And, as the curators were telling us,

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it's their nephew who took the photograph.

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There's something just gorgeous about that, isn't there?

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<v ->It's really extraordinary, actually.</v>

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<v ->Yeah, yup, yup.</v>

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You know what we're seeing in this exhibition,

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that's just occurred to me, because it is love stories,

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and we're seeing such, you know, in many of these pieces,

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beautiful expressions of love,

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something we're seeing and you see it in the John Bell one

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with his wife Anna as well,

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love, intimacy, coming from the men for their women,

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you know, their women are actually quite strong figures,

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strong, sort of looking out at the viewer

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whilst the man in the portrait seems a bit more engaged

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in the intimacy of the moment.

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That's unusual.
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<v ->Well, don't you think?</v>

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They've captured, this exhibition has a few

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of those sorts of moments.

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I think that's interesting.

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because the exhibition brings together those moments,

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and it's the same with the Stan Grant one

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and the Tracey Holmes,

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that beautiful intimacy you're getting from the male

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and sort of the warmth and respect and adoration you sense.

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You think I'm reading too much into it?

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<v ->No, no, I agree with you.</v>

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I agree with you.

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<v ->I don't think you do.</v>

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<v ->Well, you don't, you sort of...</v>

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You don't, do you?
<v ->(laughing) I do.</v>

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<v ->Well, you don't have to--</v>

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<v ->I know, but I do agree.</v>
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but it's fact.

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But don't you see that?
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it's a good observation.

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<v ->Oh, thank you.</v>
<v ->Quite iconical</v>

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in the exhibition, which is your point, right?

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<v ->Yeah, yeah.</v>

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Beautiful.

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Well, I think we should be a bit loving at this stage,

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don't you think?

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<v ->Well worth cooking.</v>

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Look, there's you, there's me.

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It actually does look a bit like me.

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<v Virginia>It does, actually, yeah.</v>

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It's got the same kind of hair at the front...

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<v Mark>Yeah.</v>
<v Virginia>No, it's quite...</v>

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<v Mark>And the same sort of tilt of the head, actually.</v>