WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.229 --> 00:00:03.646 (moody electronic music) 2 00:00:11.240 --> 00:00:15.290 My family left Vietnam in 1981, 3 00:00:15.290 --> 00:00:18.520 my mother took my sister and I out on a little boat 4 00:00:18.520 --> 00:00:21.963 into the South China Sea and when we left, 5 00:00:22.920 --> 00:00:25.160 we didn't know, at least she didn't know, 6 00:00:25.160 --> 00:00:26.746 where we were going to end up. 7 00:00:26.746 --> 00:00:28.260 But what she did know was 8 00:00:28.260 --> 00:00:32.820 that she wanted to give us a chance for a better future. 9 00:00:32.820 --> 00:00:36.240 We were very lucky because after five days and nights at sea 10 00:00:36.240 --> 00:00:40.250 we were rescued by a British oil tanker 11 00:00:40.250 --> 00:00:43.440 in the middle of the ocean and it was amazing, 12 00:00:43.440 --> 00:00:45.310 because I remember that moment 13 00:00:45.310 --> 00:00:49.740 when we approached this oil tanker, it was in the middle 14 00:00:49.740 --> 00:00:52.999 of the night, pitch black and you don't see anything. 15 00:00:52.999 --> 00:00:55.580 All of a sudden I said to my mum, 16 00:00:55.580 --> 00:00:58.000 "Mum, there are so many stars", 17 00:00:58.000 --> 00:01:00.290 because the stars were right in front of our faces 18 00:01:00.290 --> 00:01:02.600 in the middle of this pitch black ocean, 19 00:01:02.600 --> 00:01:04.750 see all of these incredible lights 20 00:01:04.750 --> 00:01:07.243 and they were the lights of the oil tanker. 21 00:01:07.243 --> 00:01:09.120 We were taken on to the oil tanker 22 00:01:09.120 --> 00:01:11.710 and then finally transported to Malaysia 23 00:01:11.710 --> 00:01:14.360 where we spent three months in a refugee camp. 24 00:01:14.360 --> 00:01:17.160 We were given the opportunity to come to Australia. 25 00:01:17.160 --> 00:01:20.750 I remember flying above Australia. 26 00:01:20.750 --> 00:01:25.480 I looked out of the window and I saw the expanse of space 27 00:01:25.480 --> 00:01:29.830 and there is so much space and so much land in Australia 28 00:01:29.830 --> 00:01:32.990 that you can't help but be blown away 29 00:01:32.990 --> 00:01:35.340 after being cramped in this refugee camp. 30 00:01:35.340 --> 00:01:38.103 Even when we were on the boat, even along the journey, 31 00:01:39.319 --> 00:01:41.260 we were cramped underneath most of the time, 32 00:01:41.260 --> 00:01:43.030 so everything felt very small. 33 00:01:43.030 --> 00:01:46.395 And here was this amazing place where we were going to land 34 00:01:46.395 --> 00:01:49.410 and I think it was amazing that we did that 35 00:01:49.410 --> 00:01:50.950 because now I'm here (laughs), 36 00:01:50.950 --> 00:01:52.500 as a very proud Australian. 37 00:01:55.070 --> 00:01:58.540 Oh yeah, my mother and my grandmother 38 00:01:58.540 --> 00:02:00.630 are just both incredible women 39 00:02:00.630 --> 00:02:04.050 and I come from a strong lineage of women 40 00:02:04.050 --> 00:02:09.050 and, not surprisingly, I'm also a bit of a hard nut myself. 41 00:02:09.162 --> 00:02:10.580 (laughs) 42 00:02:10.580 --> 00:02:13.399 My mum is probably the biggest influence in my life, 43 00:02:13.399 --> 00:02:15.850 not only did she take her responsibilities 44 00:02:15.850 --> 00:02:18.520 as a parent very seriously, but also in terms of, 45 00:02:18.520 --> 00:02:22.000 how do you role model for two children in the context 46 00:02:22.000 --> 00:02:25.030 of a migrant family resettling in a new country. 47 00:02:25.030 --> 00:02:28.280 And for her, education was so fundamental. 48 00:02:28.280 --> 00:02:30.290 You know, you can get an education, 49 00:02:30.290 --> 00:02:34.500 you can have active participation in citizenship 50 00:02:34.500 --> 00:02:38.610 in Australia, you can contribute to your broader community 51 00:02:38.610 --> 00:02:39.630 in ways that, 52 00:02:39.630 --> 00:02:42.440 not only elevate yourself and your own lot in life, 53 00:02:42.440 --> 00:02:46.990 but also to also give in a meaningful way in creating impact 54 00:02:46.990 --> 00:02:49.660 on the people around you and I think my mum's own sense 55 00:02:49.660 --> 00:02:53.930 of responsibility in how she took her civic duties, 56 00:02:53.930 --> 00:02:56.470 trickled through in terms of my own perspective 57 00:02:56.470 --> 00:03:00.198 on what my responsibilities are, not just as an Australian, 58 00:03:00.198 --> 00:03:02.350 but also as a global citizen 59 00:03:02.350 --> 00:03:05.300 and I think that's been a really wonderful lesson 60 00:03:05.300 --> 00:03:06.733 to carry in my life. 61 00:03:09.450 --> 00:03:13.310 I have always sought to find a way to contribute 62 00:03:13.310 --> 00:03:15.680 at the highest contribution value 63 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:19.320 for my own set of experiences and perspectives. 64 00:03:19.320 --> 00:03:22.660 As a teenager, I contributed by participating 65 00:03:22.660 --> 00:03:25.320 in my own local community organisation 66 00:03:25.320 --> 00:03:28.150 and helped people from a non-English speaking background 67 00:03:28.150 --> 00:03:32.100 participate meaningfully in work so they could participate 68 00:03:32.100 --> 00:03:35.150 in society and resettle in a way that allowed them 69 00:03:35.150 --> 00:03:37.320 to feel a sense of dignity and purpose. 70 00:03:37.320 --> 00:03:40.010 That led to the Young Australian of the Year Awards. 71 00:03:40.010 --> 00:03:43.883 Then when I embarked on my career as a lawyer, 72 00:03:43.883 --> 00:03:48.883 I tried very hard to find a way to contribute more broadly 73 00:03:49.420 --> 00:03:52.870 to societal structures based on a legal framework. 74 00:03:52.870 --> 00:03:54.890 And for a new migrant community, 75 00:03:54.890 --> 00:03:58.217 that was a good way that I could help them understand 76 00:03:58.217 --> 00:04:00.280 how to negotiate that. 77 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:04.020 But then, what became very clear to me very early on 78 00:04:04.020 --> 00:04:07.146 in my career was that technological advancements 79 00:04:07.146 --> 00:04:10.800 are driving the future forward and our world forward 80 00:04:10.800 --> 00:04:14.350 in a transformational way and so for me, 81 00:04:14.350 --> 00:04:17.295 it was very obvious that the trajectory that I was on 82 00:04:17.295 --> 00:04:20.610 wouldn't allow me to contribute in a way 83 00:04:20.610 --> 00:04:25.210 that I felt was the highest way that I could make an impact, 84 00:04:25.210 --> 00:04:30.210 at least in my lifetime so I made a very sharp pivot 85 00:04:30.660 --> 00:04:34.200 towards an entrepreneurial path. 86 00:04:34.200 --> 00:04:38.050 What we do is neurotechnology and neuroinformatics. 87 00:04:38.050 --> 00:04:40.840 Our mission is to accelerate brain research 88 00:04:40.840 --> 00:04:45.030 through electroencephalography or EEG for short. 89 00:04:45.030 --> 00:04:48.884 It's essentially a process where we measure and interpret 90 00:04:48.884 --> 00:04:51.990 and translate, essentially, electrical fluctuations 91 00:04:51.990 --> 00:04:54.108 that result from neurons firing 92 00:04:54.108 --> 00:04:57.040 and interacting inside the brain. 93 00:04:57.040 --> 00:05:00.360 And then once we understand how the brain works, 94 00:05:00.360 --> 00:05:01.960 and its connectivity patterns, 95 00:05:01.960 --> 00:05:06.150 we can apply it to a myriad of different diverse fields. 96 00:05:06.150 --> 00:05:08.640 My hope is that if we can democratise 97 00:05:08.640 --> 00:05:12.544 the technology around this and we make it affordable enough, 98 00:05:12.544 --> 00:05:16.730 then we will be able to find early enough markers 99 00:05:16.730 --> 00:05:18.550 for many of these conditions 100 00:05:18.550 --> 00:05:20.610 that are developmental in nature. 101 00:05:20.610 --> 00:05:22.373 I think that would be a major win. 102 00:05:24.300 --> 00:05:26.620 I live in Los Angeles and so I made a trip 103 00:05:26.620 --> 00:05:28.840 to San Francisco to meet with Tan. 104 00:05:28.840 --> 00:05:31.530 Over the three hours of us chatting and having a good laugh 105 00:05:31.530 --> 00:05:35.250 we realised that both of us actually grew up 106 00:05:35.250 --> 00:05:37.553 in adjoining suburbs in Melbourne's Western Suburbs. 107 00:05:37.553 --> 00:05:40.027 She's from Footscray, I'm from Sunshine 108 00:05:40.027 --> 00:05:43.280 and also, we realised that we're the same age, 109 00:05:43.280 --> 00:05:46.920 and then we realised that we went to the same high school. 110 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:49.880 She was actually fast tracked through high school 111 00:05:49.880 --> 00:05:52.550 whereas we would've been in the same class. 112 00:05:52.550 --> 00:05:54.560 We both experienced racism at high school 113 00:05:54.560 --> 00:05:56.990 and so, having that conversation with Tan 114 00:05:56.990 --> 00:06:01.040 and then having watched her TED talk about being a refugee 115 00:06:01.040 --> 00:06:02.860 and the experiences of her family, 116 00:06:02.860 --> 00:06:06.030 I guess, it had a huge impact on me, 117 00:06:06.030 --> 00:06:08.430 having come from a migrant family myself. 118 00:06:08.430 --> 00:06:11.840 I really connected with Tan's family story. 119 00:06:11.840 --> 00:06:14.900 So as much as I wanted it to be a portrait of Tan, 120 00:06:14.900 --> 00:06:16.920 and I really didn't want to detract from that, 121 00:06:16.920 --> 00:06:19.370 I still wanted it to, kind of, touch on issues 122 00:06:19.370 --> 00:06:21.020 of like, what it would have been, 123 00:06:21.020 --> 00:06:22.460 what would Australia be like, 124 00:06:22.460 --> 00:06:24.670 if we turn away people like Tan? 125 00:06:24.670 --> 00:06:26.810 You know, how many other people that can contribute 126 00:06:26.810 --> 00:06:29.210 to our communities and our society? 127 00:06:29.210 --> 00:06:32.350 And also, not only at a communal level, 128 00:06:32.350 --> 00:06:33.840 at, like, a global level. 129 00:06:33.840 --> 00:06:36.978 If we're looking at what she is doing when it comes to 130 00:06:36.978 --> 00:06:41.978 brain technology, she's effectively changed the way we live 131 00:06:42.820 --> 00:06:43.920 on a daily basis. 132 00:06:43.920 --> 00:06:46.883 So it was really important to bring that in to the piece. 133 00:06:48.740 --> 00:06:49.870 In our conversations, 134 00:06:49.870 --> 00:06:52.630 Tan and I had discussed suddenly bringing in the idea 135 00:06:52.630 --> 00:06:54.350 of technology and that's why 136 00:06:54.350 --> 00:06:56.170 I brought in other collaborators. 137 00:06:56.170 --> 00:06:58.330 I worked with Professor Colin Hall 138 00:06:58.330 --> 00:07:00.180 from the University of Adelaide, 139 00:07:00.180 --> 00:07:03.140 I worked with a company who created a privacy film 140 00:07:03.140 --> 00:07:04.670 which forces the viewer to have to stand 141 00:07:04.670 --> 00:07:05.960 in front of it, the portrait, 142 00:07:05.960 --> 00:07:08.890 otherwise it's out of focus, anywhere else in the gallery. 143 00:07:08.890 --> 00:07:10.900 And then I'm working with Christopher Boots 144 00:07:10.900 --> 00:07:13.920 who has helped me with the fabrication of the piece. 145 00:07:13.920 --> 00:07:15.320 There's actually a cross section 146 00:07:15.320 --> 00:07:18.010 of about four or five different substrates 147 00:07:18.010 --> 00:07:20.573 in technologies into that photo. 148 00:07:21.740 --> 00:07:24.480 Initially when Tan and I were discussing the concept, 149 00:07:24.480 --> 00:07:26.820 we started talking about the way women are depicted 150 00:07:26.820 --> 00:07:28.810 and also Asian women are depicted in imagery, 151 00:07:28.810 --> 00:07:31.583 in portraiture, in that they tend to be a lot more demure. 152 00:07:31.583 --> 00:07:34.610 We wanted it to be, you know, really badass. 153 00:07:34.610 --> 00:07:37.500 She's all these amazing things, she's an entrepreneur, 154 00:07:37.500 --> 00:07:38.870 she's been a community leader, 155 00:07:38.870 --> 00:07:41.240 she's leading the research in brain technology. 156 00:07:41.240 --> 00:07:44.820 So why would this person be depicted anything other 157 00:07:44.820 --> 00:07:47.630 than strong, powerful. 158 00:07:47.630 --> 00:07:50.560 I realised that the initial portrait that I'd taken of Tan 159 00:07:50.560 --> 00:07:54.120 wasn't gonna be as impactful, 160 00:07:54.120 --> 00:07:56.260 so therefore, I had to go back and shoot Tan. 161 00:07:56.260 --> 00:07:58.335 It was quite embarrassing I felt initially. 162 00:07:58.335 --> 00:08:00.520 She was fantastic about it. 163 00:08:00.520 --> 00:08:02.280 It was kind of a blessing in that, 164 00:08:02.280 --> 00:08:04.050 having that personal rapport with Tan 165 00:08:04.050 --> 00:08:08.140 really gave us the opportunity to take it to another level. 166 00:08:08.140 --> 00:08:10.050 We also had a couple good bottles of Champagne 167 00:08:10.050 --> 00:08:11.741 and hung out and had a really nice time, 168 00:08:11.741 --> 00:08:13.270 got pizzas delivered. 169 00:08:13.270 --> 00:08:17.500 So you know, there's a lightness that happens 170 00:08:17.500 --> 00:08:21.263 when you're then able to meet someone a few more times. 171 00:08:22.100 --> 00:08:23.100 I thought that it was really important 172 00:08:23.100 --> 00:08:25.240 to create a piece that was interactive. 173 00:08:25.240 --> 00:08:28.820 That forced the viewer to come into the gallery 174 00:08:28.820 --> 00:08:32.150 and, not just walk past it but to interact 175 00:08:32.150 --> 00:08:33.480 and then to have to ask a question. 176 00:08:33.480 --> 00:08:36.850 And that's why I integrated the mirror into the portrait. 177 00:08:36.850 --> 00:08:39.960 You know it forces, through all these various technologies, 178 00:08:39.960 --> 00:08:42.160 it forces people to a, stand in front of it 179 00:08:42.160 --> 00:08:47.070 and b then, I hope they then have to look into it 180 00:08:47.070 --> 00:08:49.810 and work out, I guess, ask themselves who Tan is, 181 00:08:49.810 --> 00:08:52.800 what did she do and also look at what's she's contributed 182 00:08:52.800 --> 00:08:53.673 to Australia. 183 00:08:54.880 --> 00:08:57.300 Honestly, it was such an amazing collaboration to work 184 00:08:57.300 --> 00:08:59.810 with John because of that shared background. 185 00:08:59.810 --> 00:09:04.170 I think the first time that we sat down together for lunch 186 00:09:04.170 --> 00:09:07.120 and discovered we had so much in common 187 00:09:07.120 --> 00:09:08.780 and so much common ground. 188 00:09:08.780 --> 00:09:11.141 I think when you're a Western Suburbs kid, 189 00:09:11.141 --> 00:09:14.660 there's a lack of entitlement that is associated with that 190 00:09:14.660 --> 00:09:17.900 because you are a new migrant family, 191 00:09:17.900 --> 00:09:21.330 you're just starting out, you really don't have an, 192 00:09:21.330 --> 00:09:25.250 you expect that you're going to be shaping your life. 193 00:09:25.250 --> 00:09:27.570 And often you're the one responsible 194 00:09:27.570 --> 00:09:32.250 for also improving the lot of your parents who sacrificed 195 00:09:32.250 --> 00:09:33.850 to bring you across and so I think, 196 00:09:33.850 --> 00:09:37.110 in many ways, it was really great to work with John 197 00:09:37.110 --> 00:09:39.590 because we share that common history 198 00:09:39.590 --> 00:09:41.050 and I was shocked that we went 199 00:09:41.050 --> 00:09:42.850 to Westbourne together for one year. 200 00:09:44.570 --> 00:09:46.450 It's such a significant moment, 201 00:09:46.450 --> 00:09:48.498 especially for a migrant family, 202 00:09:48.498 --> 00:09:51.350 like we're first generation Australians 203 00:09:51.350 --> 00:09:54.060 so we're not a , I'm not a second generation immigrant 204 00:09:54.060 --> 00:09:59.060 and so to being able to do this in one generation 205 00:09:59.736 --> 00:10:04.736 is a major accomplishment, but it also symbolises a lot 206 00:10:04.909 --> 00:10:07.900 for what's possible with people who've come 207 00:10:07.900 --> 00:10:10.150 from another place and the grit 208 00:10:10.150 --> 00:10:15.150 and dedication that they forge and that they give back 209 00:10:15.260 --> 00:10:19.370 to society so I think that's really wonderful. 210 00:10:19.370 --> 00:10:21.174 It's amazing (laughs). 211 00:10:21.174 --> 00:10:24.591 (moody electronic music)