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I wanted to do their love story justice too,
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you know.
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How, how do you capture that and sum it up in a picture?
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But I wanted to, to pic Jimmy in a way that, you know
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we're not often used to seeing him.
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I wouldn't say submissive is the word, but he's, looks,
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at peace and very calm and,
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Yeah.
and gentle,
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you know, his eyes are closed.
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He's being embraced.
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Well, he's embracing Jane.
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They're almost like a, a ying and yang.
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And I feel like that's what my auntie is to, to my uncle's.
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Yeah.
You know,
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she balances his energy out.
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Yeah.
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Because we're used to seeing pictures of him
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and he is a tough guy
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and he does scream on stage.
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But that's not,
(laughing)
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who I know.
That's what I do.
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That's what I do there.
(laughing)
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But, you know, I'm not, not like that at home.
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I'm, you know,
No.
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I'm different at home.
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Because we're close, we, you know,
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but we'd spoke about the actual doing the photograph
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and what we wanted to achieve with it as well,
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didn't we?
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It was sort of,
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you know, Jane had a lot of, a lot of input.
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Oh, well, the idea was Elizabeth's poem.
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We had a beautiful French friend
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who wrote a, a love story.
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(speaking French)
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Of, of us, how she saw our love
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and she put together this little book
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of Marc Chagall, Marc Chagall and Bella.
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It really sort of spoke something about our relationship.
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Yeah.
But then, you came up
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with the idea of Uncle Jimmy's Roses.
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We have a beautiful garden at home.
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And the rose patch particularly, that's the only one
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I can look, sort of look after, because I'm not
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not that great a gardener.
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But friends would give us, give me roses,
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instead of,
Yeah, for your 60.
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we don't want gifts.
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What happened was, everybody brought rose.
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Yeah. For me, for as, as a-
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So we created this,
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Rose garden,
amazing rose garden.
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They grow so well.
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I, I don't do that much, but I would go down and
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and pick roses for, for Jane all through lockdown.
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And every day I'd,
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I'd pick a new bunch and say, look at this.
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Isn't this great?
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You know, and this smell beautiful, like these,
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like these are from the garden.
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And the whole metaphor of the roses and you know,
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things, you know, love's not always, you know,
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easy,
a bed of roses.
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It's not always a bed of roses.
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It's not always easy,
Sort of thorns.
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And it takes work.
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Yeah.
And there's thorns.
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It's not always gonna, it's not always gonna be great.
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But the, but it's about living through that and,
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and sharing those experiences.
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There's many layers too.
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Mm.
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And all the symbols in that. Just in the roses,
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coming from our garden.
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Yeah.
And you know,
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Jesse being involved, like you said,
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just the family capturing, and he knows us, you know
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and he's known us all his life and through,
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he knows our warts and all, you know
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and we're individuals there too.
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And that's just, all these messages are important.
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Mm hmm.
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You know, the bed of roses, the, the
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you've got to fight those thorns.
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All of that.
Mm.
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For me, it started quite young, photography.
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I was like eight or nine years old.
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A family friend of ours, Wendy McDougall,
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she put a camera in my hand and,
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and I just thought it was magic.
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You know, as a kid, eight or nine years old,
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we'd go out and I'd take pictures
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and then she'd develop them in the dark room.
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And I just thought it was the coolest thing ever, you know
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to be able to freeze moments in time.
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And, and, and so she had a huge influence on me for sure.
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You know, but,
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also just my father and, and my uncle.
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Their work ethic, you know, and just their prolific output
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you know, that has been a huge impact on me.
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And, and seeing, seeing their dedication
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to their craft and just how relentless they are with that,
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I think.
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I think music and, and photography and music and art, and
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and the, the all sort of expressions of the soul.
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And, and, and it even down to the fact of, you know
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like working together and make album covers
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and think some the best album covers are made
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working together within the family.
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Writing songs with, with, with Jesse's dad.
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It's a blessing, isn't it?
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It's really,
That you have that.
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it's really incredible.
Mm.
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And when you get to work
Be able to work.
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with people that
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you're that close to, they, you know, there's
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there's just this understanding and, and, and, and ease.
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And you know, that you
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and I think they're just all expressions of love
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and the soul, you know, and they bring people together.
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Well, they're nearly everyone
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in the family's a musician or an artist.
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So I felt like I sort of rebelled
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by not,
You're an artist.
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pursuing music.
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Well in the end,
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I, I,
Oh yeah.
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Yeah.
I suppose,
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you know, I, yeah, like chose a creative path.
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But I remember going to the Portrait Gallery
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on school excursions and, and seeing the works
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hung on the walls and just thought it was
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so monumental, almost, you know, somewhat unattainable.
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I thought, wow, it'd be nice to see my pictures hung here
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but I could never see that happening, you know?
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And so I was very,
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I was very blessed to, you know,
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get the opportunity to shoot
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Jane and Jimmy, who were, you know, who very dear to me.
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And I'm very grateful for that.
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I find, like in this photo
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there's something that's sort of the message
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that I tell young singers and stuff, that,
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the best singing or the best creating you'll ever do
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comes with ease.
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And it's relaxed and it's, it's in a moment
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that's not forced or stressed or,
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and I think this, this image sort of has that
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you know, it's, it's real.
Real.
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But, you know, and, and if you
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if you find that peace when you, like, whether you're
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on stage or in a recording studio or in, in a photo.
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If you find that peace, it becomes easy.
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The work, work becomes,
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the passion becomes the what you love.
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And it's, you know, it doesn't, it's not work anymore.
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And I think that's sort of part of what shows in that photo.
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All you need is love.
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(Jane and Jimmy laughing)
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I don't know, it's a bit cheesy, but,
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you know,
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love endures.
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It lasts.
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Yeah.